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Welcome to the Mom & Mind Podcast!

This podcast focuses on the Maternal Mental Health struggles related to becoming pregnant, being pregnant, birth and early parenthood. We talk about all of the stuff that you wish someone would have told you BEFORE you tried to be pregnant or have a baby. Postpartum depression is only part of the story.

The goal of this podcast to put all of this info out in the open. There’s no need to hide these very human experiences…so many people deal with these struggles. So, the podcast provides real life stories of moms, dads and family AND we will talk with experts, leaders and advocates in the field of maternal mental health and maternal health. You deserve to be informed!!!!

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Jan 9, 2017

Deb Rich, Ph.D.

Understanding perinatal grief. We are talking with Dr. Deb Rich about pregnancy loss and neonatal loss. This is a very difficult topic for folks to hear about, but even harder for those families who are trying to deal with the loss of a child. Its so important for us to be talking about pregnancy loss…the impacts on the family…and how to support people who have experienced loss.

We discuss:

-The different kinds of pregnancy loss and neonatal loss.

-The importance of understanding loss as how it may impact the transition to parenthood.

-This type of grief needs a deeper understanding for the complexities that it brings.

-Being informed is important because mothers, fathers AND Providers will either experience loss or be in a position to support others who have.

-How to get support and be supportive during this difficult time.

Deb Rich, PhD. is a licensed psychologist with over 25 years of specialty experience. She provides patient care, consults with local health care professionals, teaches graduate, medical and nursing students, and lectures nationally. She is the founder and clinical director of Shoshana Center, which is named in memory of Dr. Rich’s first child, a daughter, who was stillborn in 1985.

Dr. Rich is the creator and facilitator of MommaCare training and Perinatal Bereavement Training in St. Paul Minnesota. I have taken this training and I HIGHLY recommend this for psychotherapists working with perinatal mothers.

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This episode was sponsored by 2020Mom

2020Mom is hosting the 7th Annual "Emerging Considerations in Maternal Mental Health" This year's Forum will be held in Los Angeles on February 13th and will discuss the MMH link to hormones and inflammation, as well as the role of diet. You can register for the live event in Los Angeles for $95, or view a webcast from the comfort of your own home or office for $50. So, anywhere in the world you are, you can watch this forum.

Listeners of this podcast will also receive a 15% discount by using registration code MOMANDMIND.

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To learn more about 2020Mom, listen back to episode 11 where I interview Joy Burkhard, the founder and executive director of 2020 mom. 

Thank you 2020Mom for supporting this Podcast!